The Gospel herald. (New Carlisle, Ohio), 1859-10-29

              ERALD.
Devoted to ChriiHtianltT, Morality, tlie Iixterests of Sabbttth Scliools, Social I
BETIOT.D,    I   BEING   YOU   GOOD   TIDINGS   OF   GUEAT   JOY  .
iripro-t-oineiii, T.-in;,,-,. j, ON   E.A.RTH   PEACE.   (,.,,,i.   v.;
VO.L. 16.
DAYTQlN, P., SATURDAY, OCTOBER 211, 1851).
NO. :>5.
ORIGINAL POETRY.
IPj-i«eii/or (lie Gospel Kenikl.
Things I like and things I Don't-
1.   1 liku lo -SCO 11 clini-cli ngreo, .\-iil live iml their pi-ofossiou;
But (|uat-'liiii!; \ do liiittt to see; l-'or it's It Inrgfi digre,=!-siaii;
t>ut so il, is rt[:cn.sioii:i,lly,
Wlien menilHir-s ilo iiogluct to pray I   ¦
'¦2..    I like to prjc tlic sinners weep, WJicn tliey do lioiir goofl preaeliiup;;
lint iiiite to see t-lie members sleep, Wliile licariiig Gospel tcaohiii!;!
I'ut J lurueitt, it's so with soini'. Who sn sleepy tlo heconii:! I
'¦i.    1 liko to preach -wlien members pra-y For grace, and trucconvei-.«ion;
liiil liate to sec tlieni stfiy awii.y, .•\Tid never use exertion;
But so it in, -n'itli many men,
Who join the nieetiag jivie and then.'
4-    I like 10 hear a preaclier preacli 'J'o jieople, Chi-isl-'s saU-alion;
lint liate to hear it jn-eaoheir teacli For t.rutli, imagination!
But tve iind it alway,4 so;
Wlien they try theiiiseh-e-i to -show.
,").     I liki^ fo hettr a fervent prayer, i-'roin nieiiil)cr-s, "warm, anil actiye;
JSut prayer tliat'.s dry, I hate to hear; I'"oi- il i-s not attractive:
But so il is with liiui "who prays, ..•\.nd never works in othor -\yays-
t).    .;i.ncl finally, I love to sit, VVlieve 1 Irlie ti-utli a,ni hoaring;
Hut hate to sec Tohacco spit, All o'er the jlnor ajipearing:
Bnt so some "meinber-s choose to do, M'lio c/icto Tohacco in the pew !! MiUmlle., LuL, Oct. 17, 185!J.
ORIGINALITIES,
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Writtetifor the Gospel I{era.ld.
"Problems on Infant Baptism, Or the wholething in a Mitshell." By Rev. Valentine Cook, A. M., of Russelville, Ky. 'Edited by Dr. Step/ienson ofthe AI. E. Church South, a.nd Republished in tlie JVorthivestern Ohristian Advocate of Chicago.
IlKVIEWED BYN. SUiL-MEIlBElL. PBffBLEMS.
1. ''Since the chtircli of Christ is called :i liousc, built on the foundation of the apostles ^and prophets, Christ being the chief cornor-stono, do not those who rtijcct infant baptium pull down the house, or a part of the build¬ ing at least?"
Ans. jSio! for infant baptism is no part ofthe house, but some hay, wood, iind .stubble ailded by men.—Lis. Art. Ba.p- Hoc- 11.
2. "Since tho church of ttod- is eal¬ lod a family, and infants are part (rf this family, do uo-t those'\Thoca.'st them out of the church,- by not baptizing thom, destroy part of tli is family?"
Ans- Wo! for if a child i.s in tlie fam¬ ily, refusing baptisiB will not put it out; nor de-stroy any part of tho fami- \y. And that thoy are not in the fam¬ ily is, proved by the-discipline which aiithorizcB their adtaission by bap- ¦Lisiii-
S "Infants arc part of the church- ' "which IS called an olive tree, and -^ome hrauchea being bi-0i<eii oft by unbe¬ lief, were the rest, namely, infants, in particiihu', ever i-)rokeii off? Tfow, then, dare -wc bretilv them off by re¬ fusing lo ba]iti7e them? '
Ans. Your discipline does not re- ganlthem asajiart ofthe church, but, as totally dcjiravod with the '-wrath" of God upon them-—Dis. Infant ba^J- tisni- prayer   vSec- ii
¦I 'Since tlio circumcision of the soul or heart is mentioned in f'olos- siauH li 11, and baptiMn in verse 12, is not inwaril baptism ns much in the room of outward or water lia]-)tisni ns sjiiritual circnraeisiou is in the room of oiitn'anl or visible ciri-nnicisuiu'-' If infants AVere included in the one, ou!j;ht they not to bo included in the other?"
Ans The bible i,s entirely silent on circumcision oftbo soul, inw.ird bap¬ tism and infant ba])fisin, neither men- lioning the one or the other-
5- "Moses was a tj^po of Christ; his bajitifun in the sea, a typo of Christian baptism- Infant-^ were baptized unto Xoses, ought they not to be baptized unto Christ now? Tfnol, is Moses a type of Christ'^'
/\ns. If infants were baptized in the sea, >so were all other tlnnt;-s conuectetl with tholewi-sh cAmp; clothing, car¬ riages, or whalcver they [lossGSsed and by yonr logic, you must baptize all niiw !    Smell a ThcDlogian !
(i- "Since a littlo child is mado an o.vainple ami copy of all religion, and we must become converted and become as Iil tie eliildreu in ]ioint of innocence, if we refuse to baptize an infant, who ifi the o\-aiiiple''' Can we with iiro- priot}' baptize Hkjso adults who are only the imitation of this cxamjile'''"
Ans. "Who is the example ' Christ is the example Your discipline com- jircliondiiig infants as totally de]iraved, makes fhein a very iioor example. Ave they an example in faith? or prayer''' Toll us what they are examples in'-' Ih it in depravity' Or is itin li.iving wrath upon them as por diHci])line
7. "He that receiveth one such lit¬ tlo one in jiiy namo, sulci Christ re¬ ceiveth tne; and to bapli/e ihein is to receive tlicni iu Christ's name: Does it not follow that if we refuse fo ba]!- tize them wc reject Christ, and con-sc- quently Him that sent him? Can a Christian do this?''
Ans- You have not proA'cd that they can only be received by baptism, and your inference that not to bap¬ tize them, is to reject Christ, cometh not ofa bir-art which thinketh no evil. A]iply it toyourowiircicetinn of adults who rcquc-t immersion, aiid yonr un- charirable iiite?(>nco -will find a legiti¬ mate ajiplicalicn.
S '-Abraham, by a command of Crfjd, received them into h,scliuKdi; bow daiv wc, the chiklren (vf Abraham, refuse to admit them into the church by baptism without au c-xprc-js pre- cq.t?"
Ans. In this you confcradief nearly all that you hav;c said betbrc. ^o. 1. 2, and ,'i, were founded upon the as¬ sumption that they wero in Kow}'"^^ try to prove itrigiit totaice them in. Is truth so tortuous? Abraham br ^'O^''^' inand of God circumciBed all Ms male servants too, withcwti reference to con- ver.sion !    Will you ?   ile never thus
received fetnales '. Will vou. a t-hda ni Abraham dothus?     [»jire vuu :
ih    "Since bapti-^ni   i- iIk--^t:!! ^t ah and ilooi-<it the vi-ihi,    i!,!.r, h. .i-'-. lAeueration is ,if tin.-  --iiii-i" n,.; ,-i.,ii-. .i. an<l Christ is ,/( /a.   ,.';, .,.,.  ^.i.!  w,  -..;¦ comniunih'I tu suifi-r lut •• i " ,1 i- u i ¦ fOhii   iinttj   llil,,,   ill,  v,-f   11.;   '.;.;i'.   ' /- cominaml wluii  w.-  r, "si--     ;.   '. .i',;'/ thom ami tidmit them 'n ut tl  - .,,' :•.-'
An.s. Are yiii 11,.1 ;'si. ni.i ', n -,. • say lluif btiptisin is .i .), [• ;,,(,, -;,,. i-hurch, while in Xu. 1.2 ". \.i h.,.. chihlren in before btipiizi I \i¦ .\. -¦ rsbi. 2. amlXo. '.). uii.l .... h, ¦¦. ;,'.*. fully coiisisfciif ihey are, >j rin^i.'.i; sir IS not the door iut.i CI i-;-;' .'vn-i ehildrcn were nut biMiij-Lt t .i",;-!- ' \ baptism See -Matt. x\i<;. I l!l. '-Sin(-e infants ;,)•, t'.i-;.'.','.,•:- of Christ s body, lan ^^^¦ r^ ii.--1 . ; ,- I mil a member nf Chris''- jj,. K t ,,_^ , tisni"-' '
A\s. No 10 L-omra.lii'ts \,, ;i \., 10 has them already iu t'hi-'-l -m , .' part of him, while Xo. ii suj.w.s, . -,,. i the only way to get tiu-io tn Chr'-' ;- by baptism. One has it—uui-ii' thiii. to Christ by ha]itisiu. "l"!!. uth, r h..- it—they are in Christ. -,, b;.jitT*:i'ti.. ,.\ filiame on such liev ds .A .Ms., i,,; L> D's Surely they an- well f,'-, 1 i.u- baby sprinklers; tin- tin y ri-a--iu . !i. r aa well as babies.
11 -Since the churi-h -.t Cr^si i- I called a sheepfiild- am' tbe-hnr..! t ,,- j fold IS baptism, tnight tlu uld -h.> -p t • I be adnultedaiidthc himhs Uirne luu'.--
I     AiV,'^.    Now you have   turm-il bu'-k.
' ^""0. Id has tlicm in. Xo. 11 tliinks thatthcy should be admitt.u but -lu you'-" !Xu sir. Thuu^-h ymi imirk tne lambs by sprinkliiiii. yet yuu ilu nut eonsider" them full iiic'iib>-i-s ul ymir church Let me state tin- que-tiuii. BcsT'Since the tliurch uf Ciiri-t is cal¬ led a shecpf lid, ami the- slu-fparefi d by Christ's Shepberils, whom lie teaclies al-sii to feed his lambs might the uld shee]) to he fed in the coiiinninimi. ami the lambs be rejected,   a.-* you rej.-vt
them.-* ,   .^    , .
12 "If inf;«nt.s aiv udinittni ii r.. heaven by the bajitism of the IIul-. Spirit, and miulo a part ot the .-hureb triumphant, ought tbey mat., be re¬ ceived into the cbur<-h ol water kip- tisni' If not, bowls the will id Cud Ciima on ,'arih as it is mh,a,;i,-
•Vns Better state tbe <iuestiuii tims It "infants are received into hearei without baptism, oi.i^lnwe U'lt tu r- ceivethem, ^\itllour bajitism _ Ihero is 1,0 proof that infants re-pinv l.a],- iisni toir.iin heaven. ¦.,,..
]¦] -^If infants avt^ adiuittc! iint Uio'juiTeb m. earth and in h.-.iv.-u. I,„t not m he!!, is not hat i-hun-b winch h.is m. inlantsH. U. mun- life hell than llea^cli'?
w- 1 do not kmm- ut a«y rhareb which has no infants in ,thi.t,I-   -uur
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in Is {buro any it',. ' ».ase in pru- ffstaiit'siii w Ll re int.'".''',-! u* ministirs tuih tu thiis'i'lii ji tCyk'n .vd.ifsiiut ui'dei--t-',iid tlu'Ui. a- in "o.ipti/.ing a ebihi. ' I baptize ti.e.- ', •
li. Is it riudit lu (io t in th.- A*(iw(< ufljud. it Cud husu,,* 1 i i..mamlt'il it? Is it hoiii-sf.'
I'J It<-hildrt'n Hi'i tutally depravfi}. i-it ri_dit to h-ij.i,/.' ih'-iii. at lili k>- ture t!,. v art- turi\erti d .-'
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Ibtu i-;:.ns _ [i ;. M.irlv hyJ. K\ans of l'i"u.,\nul. ,'rililh'l - .1 .^I'f ffb < ' < ' .. .-' ,..,-.'. ¦'¦ , .'• 1 find the Colluft'i .,- .in'uuir i f.t d. uumiuatliiii. wiih-h '¦,<- authi.i'.-.ir..!- n Xr .iwr,. „ .s . Ih yeu'irt lining .sciitliiu nts < u .i ,.. ., \, ;i'i;!> mav lire,insid.-ri d :,s u j .ir- ,.r the C'li-istian dcu'un'.i. th 'i. ;,iid „ ki.uv. I-dire oftheir !r'-ti r> .ml -, mi- .11.111 ^sdl add tu th" -t. ,.; ¦ ,. u' d- m.iuin.iiionai iiteratiire
"jif-anytif those xOi > '.''i ,\ mu;r,u,'d li-mn Wales to Aim : .. 1 :¦'•. i- leh.pted the fblliAvin^'artii-!< ^ . - .i.t-ir r.'Ugi,.iis fiMistituiiim-
"1. The . iiiM;.i;,,n sL.tll be cailed tbe Chn-ti;u- 1 iu n (i.
"2. It-ha 1 lu \i r h(. laiii d by any other ii.'i'iii . , V 1,,. disiingni.slitdbvtiic liitrtii'iihir ti'iu-ls ,.1' any man or M-cts of men
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